LOL, very true. Been a busy time at work sadly and sleep was also needed, but I did just bite the bullet and order two (2) of the WH16NS60s from Amazon so thank you all for the information. I had to buy two to have one as a backup. Rumors of 4K UHD drives/players being discontinued, this also has 3D support and I have a large collection... plus BDXL and UHD ripping ability. Had to have a backup before things go crazy with prices. Thanks again all!!!