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This is an interesting question. It SHOULD be able to create a protected image that can then be mounted and decrypted. However, the caveat is that the title MUST be first scanned by someone else with a UHD friendly drive to ascertain the key. But in theory, this should work.
No, it won't. The key won't help because of bus encryption.
 
At this time the prerequisites are:
3.) An active internet connection during disc scan.

Will this be like bandwidth-heavy DeUHD process of downloading hundreds of megs of keys per disc or more like alternative solutions which use per title keys instead?
 
Will this be like bandwidth-heavy DeUHD process of downloading hundreds of megs of keys per disc or more like alternative solutions which use per title keys instead?
1.) No.
2.) Yes. "during disc scan" reveals it.
 
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Just out of curiosity, are there any other UHD friendly laptop/slim drives out there besides the LG BU30N? Would the Panasonic UJ-272 possibly work given that it supports BD-XL?
 
There's a list on myce of supported drives. You can always put one of the friendly desktop drives in an enclosure

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Now with UHD the thing that has stopped me getting into them is the lack of the ability to back them up but also the ridiculous requirements for play back on PC. Now my question is, if I can make a backup with anydvd does that also circumvent the playback requirements as in kaby lake cpu, uhd drive, graphics card (from Jeff R 1's post)??? Or, once backed up can I expect to be able to play them on the same equipment I use now for playing my bluray backups. I understand the requiement for a UHD friendly drive to make the backup on the first place. If the answer is yes then this is indeed agame changer for 4k discs and might actually help 4k get established.
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Hope this is not a dumb question.

No dumb question at all. IMHO PC UHD/HDR playback can be a real PITA. I suggest to copy UHD discs to mkv (e.g., using CloneBD) and play them on a decent media player. I use a handful of Nvidia Shields for this purpose.
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https://www.techhive.com/article/28...consumers-more-than-pirates-meet-hdcp-22.html
Heren they say s.th.:
"In order to watch copy-protected Ultra HD content--be it on a disc, a download, or via an over-the-top stream—you’ll need HDCP 2.2 compatible devices at every link in the signal chain. Because this isn’t just about media players and TVs; it applies to any component with an HDMI connection."
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I know there are small HDMI adapters that can transform HDCP 2.2 signals to HDCP 2.1? (or 2.0). This can then be processed further for decryption etc.. or s.th. else like that.

What about UHD? When you have a UHD friendly drive and AnyDVD knows the decryption key you can make a decrypted backup.
But the HDCP 2.2 itself is not removed?
Converting the main movie from decrypted BD-UHDs ISOs to mkv with CloneBD is this bypassing HDCP 2.2 in some way?
And maybe UHD-friendly still don't have new HDCP 2.2 /not fully implemented?
Well I'd guess HDCP 2.2 is still problematic,James said s.th. about pity with UHDs, so I'd guess you still need a HDCP 2.2 kompatible hardware like Kaby-Lake CPU etc. and a HDCP 2.2 compatible monitor/TV (at least) for AACS-2.0-decrypted ISOs, but this is not needed, when converted to mkv, as James recommended?

(Well it's not so specific what the issue is for UHD playback, maybe it's meant to play from a decrpyted UHD that it just needs a fast CPU/GPU, or with a specialised HEVC (h.265) hardware decoder built in.)
 
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https://www.techhive.com/article/28...consumers-more-than-pirates-meet-hdcp-22.html
Heren they say s.th.:
"In order to watch copy-protected Ultra HD content--be it on a disc, a download, or via an over-the-top stream—you’ll need HDCP 2.2 compatible devices at every link in the signal chain. Because this isn’t just about media players and TVs; it applies to any component with an HDMI connection."
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I know there are small HDMI adapters that can transform HDCP 2.2 signals to HDCP 2.1? (or 2.0). This can then be processed further for decryption etc.. or s.th. else like that.

What about UHD? When you have a UHD friendly drive and AnyDVD knows the decryption key you can make a decrypted backup.
But the HDCP 2.2 itself is not removed?
Converting the main movie from decrypted BD-UHDs ISOs to mkv with CloneBD is this bypassing HDCP 2.2 in some way?
And maybe UHD-friendly still don't have new HDCP 2.2 /not fully implemented?
Well I'd guess HDCP 2.2 is still problematic,James said s.th. about pity with UHDs, so I'd guess you still need a HDCP 2.2 kompatible hardware like Kaby-Lake CPU etc. and a HDCP 2.2 compatible monitor/TV (at least) for AACS-2.0-decrypted ISOs, but this is not needed, when converted to mkv, as James recommended?

(Well it's not so specific what the issue is for UHD playback, maybe it's meant to play from a decrpyted UHD that it just needs a fast CPU/GPU, or with a specialised HEVC (h.265) hardware decoder built in.)

I've been dipping my toe into this this afternoon. These are my preliminary results.

Tried to rip Interstellar with AnyDVDHD beta with the latest UHDkeys.txt file (before the hashed version). AnyDVD refused to copy as it said i did not have the correct hash key for that disc. Examination if the UHDKeys.txt confirmed that there were 3 hashes for Interstellar but not for that exact disc. The disc is AACS MKB Version 61. I resorted to Makemkv which did have a key.

I made an ISO backup with ANYDVDHD keeping protection which it did. Took about 90 minutes roughly.

I made a backup with the other program removing encryption which it did, maybe 2 hours.

I also made an MKV. Couldn't use CloneBD because of no key for ANYDVD.

Each option looked ok in terms of structure it created, size etc. I tried to play the MT2S file from the backup and MKV in Powerdvd15. It played but was very choppy on playback. I have a powerful water cooled PC with a 1080 32 GB memory , FAST CPU etc. The file was on a WD USB 2TB drive. The filesize was 60-85 GB. I did the same in MPC 64 and both options played fine, good 4K picture and good quality sound. My screen is 4k but not HDR. The colours looked a little muted - to be expected.

Still experimenting but it at least is as James says the copy and playing is no problem on a PC that does not comply with UHD requirements in most areas. I don't think I comply with HDCP 2.2, no "proper" 4K drive, no Kaby lake etc etc .

I can report on more progress if anyone is interested.
 
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At least your GTX 1080 GPU supports HDCP 2.2, and maybe your 4k monitor also.
Are you 100% sure that your 4k monitor doesn't comply with HDCP 2.2?
THX for testing.

@tgp7777777 Could you make further testing?
Maybe you have another monitor with Full-HD. This one certainly is without HDCP 2.2
Could you test here if decrypted UHD iso plays there, too.
Well it will at least Downscale to Full-HD, which itself afaik shouldn't be the least problem, if should work without HDCP 2.2 support anyway.


When you use external GPU like GTX 1080, it shouldn't matter in any case if CPU doesn't support HDCP 2.2 anyway.

But maybe I'm talking rubbish and maybe HDCP 2.2 doesn't play any role when AACS 2.0 of UHD-BD was decrypted or s.th. else removed which prevents HDCP 2.2 to get into place.
I'm just speculating. I just have a few old Core2 architecture computers (Xeon L5430 2.66 GHz quadcore, TDP 50W) system and only with Full-HD resolution monitor here at home.
My CPU is without HEVC decoder, and I don't have a GPU with HEVC decoding.
Playing 3840x2160 h.264? AVC or HEVC/h.265 youtube video at standard clock with CPU decoding has between 95-100+ % CPU usage.
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Nearly fluently but sometimes ar heavy video scenes picture minimally slower than audio.
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[Edit]Internet connection too slow &youtube Browser media player (Adobe flash) more inefficient
4k downloaded to mkv video seems to play fluently in MPV (with 3840x2160 to 1920x1080 interpolation), CPU overclocked from 2,66 GHz to 3,2 GHz and 96% max heavy CPU usage (at this video only)

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Did have FireFox running in background when playing 4k video with MPV. Did close FireFox and tested at standard clock. Max CPU usage here at standard clock (without) FireFox in background 90%.
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I'm just curious if this system will play (theoretically) UHD directly from an decrypted ISO from an UHD friendly drive (besides my system is most probably a bit too slow)
Besides it must downscale the resoultion on my monitor anyway.
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Damn I forgot bought an 3840x2160 IPS-Samsung monitor at other apartment. It has two HDMI ports.And one of the two HDMI supports HDCP 2.2 and 4K.
(And here was also 4k testing with 95-100+% CPU usage)

Let's see if it will play decrypted UHD isos on the UHD-Monitor-HDMI port with HDCP 2.2 and at the other UHD-Monitor-HDMI-port, too.
Got an UHD friendly drive (ASUS BW-16D1HT) manufactured in April 2017 with FW 3.01 preinstalled.
And if yes, when performance is too slow grab a GTX 1050 Ti, if we can rule out HDCP 2.2 stuff anyway.
 
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What about UHD? When you have a UHD friendly drive and AnyDVD knows the decryption key you can make a decrypted backup.
But the HDCP 2.2 itself is not removed?

My understanding is that HDCP is enforced by licensed playback software (PowerDVD, iTunes) whilst playing protected(AACS, FairPlay etc) content. If you remove the protection, you can use a non-licensed player (MPC-HC, VLC, Kodi) for playback. As none of these players require HDCP, it is no longer a concern.
 
Damn great. :thankyou:
Had some idea about it, but was unsure.

I'll need to buy an UHD-BD to test if my old CPU has enough performance (just out of curiousity).
Will buy an addional/maybe two LG BH16NS55.
ASUS BW-16D1HT (2015+) is a rebagded LG BH16NS55 (according to forums). But s.o. at club myce had problems with his ASUS BW-16D1HT fw. 3.02 (rip errors) with one UHD disc.,
while the LG BH16NS55 crossflashed to Asus ASUS BW-16D1HT-fw. 3.02 ripping went through with this problematic UHD disc.
Strange because both drives should be the same (according to forums) and same firmware used (from the crossflashing)
(It surely wasn't FW. 3.03 flashed)
 
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I've been dipping my toe into this this afternoon. These are my preliminary results.
Each option looked ok in terms of structure it created, size etc. I tried to play the MT2S file from the backup and MKV in Powerdvd15. It played but was very choppy on playback. I have a powerful water cooled PC with a 1080 32 GB memory , FAST CPU etc. The file was on a WD USB 2TB drive. The filesize was 60-85 GB. I did the same in MPC 64 and both options played fine, good 4K picture and good quality sound. My screen is 4k but not HDR. The colours looked a little muted - to be expected.
Still experimenting but it at least is as James says the copy and playing is no problem on a PC that does not comply with UHD requirements in most areas. I don't think I comply with HDCP 2.2, no "proper" 4K drive, no Kaby lake etc etc .

Likely the choppy playback doesn't have to do with the your 'UHD compliance" or not. If it plays back at all you are either compliant or bypassing it. Compliance doesn't matter for MKV's. It will only matter with full encrypted UHD discs using PowerDVD (which 15 doesn't support, you'd have to upgrade to 17). I've not tried playing a full ripped, non-encrypted disc but I'm sure many others have so check here, club.myce.com, avsforum.com etc to see the other's results. I would assume your choppiness is being caused by PowerDVD 15 not using your GPU's capabilities. When you are playing content back, check task manager to see if your CPU is getting taxed or not. For UHD content all you really need is gpu support for h.265 playback (or a reallly beefy cpu). For my 10-year old quad-core intel cpu system I put in a Nvidia 1030 and playback of movie+lossless audio in a .mkv uses less than 10% of my CPU when playing back with MPC-BE/HC. Without hardware acceleration playback is choppy and my CPU is pegged.
 
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@Curtis @tgp7777777
tgp7777777 made also an encrypted backup with AnyDVD while AnyDVD didn't have the decryption key for his/her specific Disc version.
Then he/she got the decryption keys from makekkv tgp7777777 and also made an decrypted backup.
It would be interesting if the encrypted backup plays too in licensed player like PowerDVD.
I don't know if it would matter if tgp7777777 should have made the decrypted backup from the encrypted backup, or if it is better to make the decrypted backup also from the original UHD-BD.

@Curtis
What quad core CPU model do you have? And what clock using?

And it may depend on the efficiency of the player software.
Well MPV works fine with CPU-Multihreading.
Well if you have s.th. similar like Q9550 or even Q6600 I think I really should forget about it that my CPU matches performance requirements, and should use a GPU
I'd guess the player software you took uses CPU-Multihreading as good as well.

And maybe this 4k-youtube video here has lower bittrate than 4k UHD-Blu-rays and it has only 29.97 fps.
And not to forget explosion scenes etc. not in this test video which might need higher rate/performance.
 
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@Curtis @tgp7777777
tgp7777777 made also an encrypted backup with AnyDVD while AnyDVD didn't have the decryption key for his/her specific Disc version.
Then he/she got the decryption keys from makekkv tgp7777777 and also made an decrypted backup.
It would be interesting if the encrypted backup plays too in licensed player like PowerDVD.
I don't know if it would matter if tgp7777777 should have made the decrypted backup from the encrypted backup, or if it is better to make the decrypted backup also from the original UHD-BD.

@Curtis
What quad core CPU model do you have? And what clock using?

And it may depend on the efficiency of the player software.
Well MPV works fine with CPU-Multihreading.
Well if you have s.th. similar like Q9550 or even Q6600 I think I really should forget about it that my CPU matches performance requirements, and should use a GPU
I'd guess the player software you took uses CPU-Multihreading as good as well.

And maybe this 4k-youtube video here has lower bittrate than 4k UHD-Blu-rays and it has only 29.97 fps.
And not to forget explosion scenes etc. not in this test video which might need higher rate/performance.

TGP'7777777s playback choppiness would have had to have to have been with the unencrypted copy or it wouldn't have played back as they aren't using PowerDVD 17. You have to have that app and the supported intel chipset and connections. (I cannot play encrypted UHD discs in my PowerDVD 17 as I do not have the chipset or supported monitors)


My CPU is QX6700 (stock 2.66GHz) and it is immediately choked out if it is used to to playback the UHD files. But with the $80 Nvidia 1030 I can run multiple UHD movies playing back at the same time on different monitors without any real impact on the CPU. I like MPC-BE (or MPC-HC) for playback as it is very lightweight and (obviously) uses the GPU.

I played back that youtube video in Chrome with GPU support turned on and (when full screen) was smooth with about 15-20% CPU usage. (Playing back a UHD .mkv in MPC-BE is usually around 10% CPU usage or less, Chrome as a player is far less efficient and/or the video codec isn't decoded as well by the GPU.) Turning off GPU support made the playback become slightly choppy (less so than UHD does) and mostly maxed my CPU like yours though Chrome was only taking about 60% or so of the CPU - the OS and other processes I have running were taking the rest.
UHD disks have higher (variable) bitrate, 10bit color and lossless audio that will tax your system more than that youtube video does. No way will your CPU be able to play them back by itself (as my doesn't).
 
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There's a list on myce of supported drives. You can always put one of the friendly desktop drives in an enclosure

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True. I just have been looking for something more aesthetically complimentary for my RVZ02 small form factor case.



A family member is preparing for their UHD drive which should be arriving in the next couple of days. As of now, is the UHDkeys.txt still required with the latest beta or is online scanning now implemented? The change log for the latest beta appears to say something nothing of the upcoming online scan option, meaning it is still in the pipeline, but I just wanted to double check first.
 
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True. I just have been looking for something more aesthetically complimentary for my RVZ02 small form factor case.



A family member is preparing for their UHD drive which should be arriving in the next couple of days. As of now, is the UHDkeys.txt still required with the latest beta or is online scanning now implemented? The change log for the latest beta appears to say something nothing of the upcoming online scan option, meaning it is still in the pipeline, but I just wanted to double check first.

Keylist is not suportet in the new beta and no online thing for UHD either, just be patient and it will all come in time
 
The key list is supported just fine. It's the hashed keys that isn't supported.

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The key list is supported just fine. It's the hashed keys that isn't supported.

In the Changelog for 8.2.1.8, James removed the line:

"New (UHD Blu-ray): Fetch AACS keys from external file for use with "UHD-friendly" drives."

So it seems the latest beta might not support the leaked key list or the hashed keys.
 
In the Changelog for 8.2.1.8, James removed the line:

"New (UHD Blu-ray): Fetch AACS keys from external file for use with "UHD-friendly" drives."

So it seems the latest beta might not support the leaked key list or the hashed keys.
Correct. The "Boo2 - A Madea Halloween" DVD needed an update, just in the middle of the UHD rework.
But 8.2.1.7 is still available for download, if needed.
 
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