First, jdobbs is an amazing software developer and he SHOULD get the respect he deserves. He's been nothing but awesome. As for DVDFab, however, they are known to "borrow" code without giving credit. Whatever, that's their business. But I find it dubious that someone would accuse SlySoft of doing that and giving DVDFab a free pass(key) [hehehe, see what I did there? ] every chance they get. IOW, it's ridiculous, false, and we can all move along. EDIT: Seta_rip has asked that the thread on doom9 be deleted. So, again, I ask that we simply drop it here, as well, and move along.