If one owns Anydvd and must rip, he or she should be using Clonedvd. I always recommend ripping with Clonedvd. And with that Sony/Lionsgate nonsense with Shrink, I agree with you completely. Just to clarify a little . . . I, in fact, bought Clonedvd three times for home use (despite the fact I didn't have to, because it's not as though I'm burning on all three systems at the exact same time), before I became a moderator here, so obviously I feel Clonedvd is important to own if you also own Anydvd.