Additional audio options?

Discussion in 'CloneBD' started by MovieFan, Aug 19, 2020.

  1. MovieFan

    MovieFan Well-Known Member

    I have a question about what probably affects a tiny number of people, but I encountered this multiple times very recently. I'm wondering if there is a workaround.

    I have a disk (Blade Trinity Uncut) that has as it's primary, HD audio, DTS-HD MA 6.1 Surround. It also has two stereo commentary tracks and depending on which program I use to read it, it also has a compressed 6.1 audio track. It looks like this in CloneBD:

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    The same disk looks like this in HandBrake:

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    Here it is in MakeMKV:

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    In both Handbrake and MakeMKV it list both the DTS-HD MA as well as the DTS-ES version of that track. I like having that option. CloneBD seems to ignore it.

    However, the bigger thing I want to know about is whether I can add more tracks (copies of tracks) to transcode, similar to HandBrake. This disc has no 5.1 Surround track meaning it will either be transcoded by Plex when I play it in my living room or I need to add a track manually to get 5.1 audio. Otherwise I have no center channel which is the dialog. it's looking for a rear-center channel speaker that doesn't exist or something like that. In Handbrake, I can simply add a copy of the DTS-HD track and reencode it to AAC 5.1 when I'm ripping the disk.

    Obviously, CloneBD is the preferred option, but in cases like this I have no other option but to use HandBrake it seems. Is it possible to do this within CloneBD and I'm just missing it? I don't want to REMOVE the 6.1 track because I can also play this in my theater room that can handle the original DTS-HD. I just want to add an extra track that will get reencoded to 5.1 as well so I can use the same rip in my living room.

    I had a similar experience with the Exorcist director's cut recently so I thought I'd throw it out there.

    Thanks in advance for any help or advice!
     
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  2. tectpro

    tectpro Translator (ms_MY)

    CloneBD handles the DTS-HD as intended, the DTS-Es is encapsuled in the DTS-HD by default. There is no seperate DTS stream in this case.

    BluRays are mastered this way so players or hometheaters etc that do not support DTS-HD will play the encapsuled DTS stream.

    But maybe @Reto can explain this better than me.
     
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  3. MovieFan

    MovieFan Well-Known Member

    That is fine on the DTS-ES.

    My bigger concern is the ability to manually add a copy of a track so I can re-encode it to 5.1 as an additional track. I can't find any functionality to do that. Do you know if it's possible?
     
  4. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL

    not possible.
     
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  5. Fabian

    Fabian Developer

    In other words, you want the option to make a copy of a stream.. have the original 7.1 and a second downgrade 5.1 version?

    Most players can do this automatically, but if you wish and think it's useful, we can add such an option for MKV/MP4 files.
     
  6. MovieFan

    MovieFan Well-Known Member

    Yes! In my case it was from 6.1, not 7.1, but probably the same functionality would work with either.

    This is easily done in HandBrake. I would just prefer to use CloneBD as it's faster!
     
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  7. MovieFan

    MovieFan Well-Known Member

    Not being pushy, but curious if this was on the near future horizon. I am going through a bunch of my 3D disks and re-ripping them to MVC so this feature would be quite handy! If it's imminent I'll wait.

    Thanks!
     
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