A few thoughts about piracy

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Peer, Mar 1, 2016.

  1. SamuriHL

    SamuriHL Retired Moderator

    I have no desire to pirate anything. If I like it, I buy it. Period. These days I'm doing a lot more streaming video for things I don't care too much about quality. I buy them on VUDU. For things that quality matters, I obviously get the blu-ray but I want to repackage it into a useful format to stream around my house on my gigabit lan. I own over 600 blu-rays which I find to be too much to rip all at once. So I generally take the most watched movies and rip those. When I rent movies on Netflix, it's not about ripping as I don't own them. It's about using the player *I* want not the player I'm "required" to. In my case, that'd be MC21 with LAV filters and madvr tweaked for my Panny plasma. PowerDVD doesn't even come close. Besides the fact that MC scans the disc, and plays the movie without all the nonsense. THAT is what AnyDVD is designed for. If I'm not able to do that with my legally purchased discs, then screw em....I'll start renting more and buying less.
  2. Rathbone80

    Rathbone80 Well-Known Member

    In Germany 50 cents (in Euro cent, not USD) is a regular price for a half a day disc rental.
  3. Rathbone80

    Rathbone80 Well-Known Member

    I was working as a freelancer for several independent companies. One of my clients was a former bootlegger who has gone legit. So I know what I am talking about. Some people here need to come out of their bubble and face reality and the inconvenient truth. If Redfox is saying that 99% of the AnyDVD HD users are using the tool for private use of their purchased discs, I'll have to say that this is an illusion. I think that there are not so many people backing up their owned discs as people in this forum think or wish. Consider that in this forum you have a condensed version of the AnyDVD customer base and nobody's going to admit (unless he's plain stupid) his true intentions how he's using AnyDVD HD.
  4. gereral1

    gereral1 Well-Known Member

    Up here it costs 3 bucks Canadian plus tax to rent a movie. Around 25 bucks to buy.
  5. bluemanta

    bluemanta Member

    Until the content owners change their primitive greedy business model, piracy will continue to flourish.

    Imagine if a movie disk cost $5 instead of the outrageous high price people are being asked to pay today....
    $5 would make it no brainer to purchase a disk.

    Look what happened to the music industry. It was about to die because of piracy and then Apple started with the $0.99 per song downloads...and voila! The music industry was saved by embracing this model....and music piracy is almost non-exist because consumers prefer to buy legally as long as it's reasonably priced and conviniently available...

    The video content industry has to step into the 21st century and change their business models and pricing so it becomes not worth dealing with pirated movies....
  6. Rathbone80

    Rathbone80 Well-Known Member

    Bad manufacturing quality and horribly mastered CDs cost an insanely high price (15-20 EUR)...and you're saying they have learned?

    I don't pay that much for bad discs so the only way for me to get good quality physical music media is vinyl, SACD, DVD-Audio.
  7. rdodolak

    rdodolak Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, $5 per disc is unrealistic. No company, if they want to survive, would chose to lose money. Would you be so willing to take a loss so your customers can benefit off of you?
  8. gereral1

    gereral1 Well-Known Member

    14.99 would be a fair price.
  9. SamuriHL

    SamuriHL Retired Moderator

    They could lower the price by dropping all the drm completely...No more licensing fees to the aacs la.
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  10. dellsam34

    dellsam34 Well-Known Member

    Considering the movie generally gets it's money back in the first few weeks in the theatres, actors and the crew get paid millions, everybody is happy Champaign is flowing, add the remaining weeks of projection earnings, add rental, TV broadcast and streaming royalties later on, $5 a disc will be near pure profit, Off course they have to be creative to milk their creation, not produce for a week and go sleep for the whole year.
  11. -=GHOST=-

    -=GHOST=- New Member

    God bless you, Peer!
  12. nebostrangla

    nebostrangla Well-Known Member

    That is not totally correct the "Artists" get very little to none of those monies that come from non band or label hosted digi downloads or streaming services however it did curb illegal downloads of the radio single's
  13. bluemanta

    bluemanta Member

    I think it depends on how you look at it. From corporate perspective It would be unrealistic given the inflated staff these companies employs and the salaries their executives enjoy.
    The production investment of a movie is usually returned from the box office screening with a nice profit so DVD/BD sales, Pay-Per-View and Streaming are pure profit. The cost of placing the disc on the shelf (including the box, cover, etc...) is less than $1 so $5 would be very realistic given the volume of discs they will sell.

    Another issue is the cable companies who are holding the content owners (Studios) by their b@#$S because they have the largest client base which allow them to place huge pressure on the studios. This is for example why the streaming content on Netflix is kind of old - because the cable companies are pressuring the studios to not sell newer content to Netflix..... Same with the sports channels... that are usually available through CableTV and Satellite only.... and so on and on....
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  14. zent

    zent Well-Known Member

    I'm a little confused. Can you only playback in PAL? I hate NTSC converted to PAL on a DVD, which has all kinds of issues, starting with the 3:2 judder. Usually there is generation loss as well to go with the 3:2 judder. In Australia NTSC and PAL playback are interchangeable on DVD players and televisions. Only broadcast television is tied to PAL specifications. So I enjoy seeing the more authentic NTSC DVD releases from the US for a lot of TV shows and movies, usually old ones. And bluray mostly uses NTSC type video specifications, 24 progressive or 60 interlaced fps. Occasionally extras or the rare movie on a bluray will be set to the PAL type specifications of frame speed.
    But it's a bit new to me to worry about TV shows that were originally produced for PAL regions that have been made for NTSC type specifications, and the pitch changes. There are of course PAL region produced TV shows that are only available in NTSC. This has happened with a number of British TV shows. Colors are washed out when you convert PAL to NTSC. Or maybe before digital methods probably improved or something.
  15. B-Fish

    B-Fish New Member

    Why not make just the OPD peer to peer?
  16. LogicDeLuxe

    LogicDeLuxe Active Member

    Sure, most players and displays can play NTSC nowadays, but staying at NTSC also means keeping the 3:2 judder. A good PAL conversion can get rid of the 3:2 judder. That is the kind of PAL conversion I prefer for exactly that reason.
  17. VicVideo

    VicVideo New Member

    So true, I agree absolutely and wanted to know if you could give some hints or "howtos" to add other language tracks as I find myself in the same situation: Over here in Switzerland, as we have three official languages, you can buy a BluRay/DVD in Z├╝rich with german, english and turkish language tracks, but not with french or italian. The same title in Geneva is available with french, english, arab and other language tracks but not with the german language. Then you go to the southern part, in Lugano, where you find the movies in their italian versions but not necessarily with the other languages you want: Imagine my problem as I have my origins in the italian part, but am of german mother tongue, living in the french part and my wife is of spanish mothertongue : I bought some BluRays / DVDs in two or even three versions !
  18. FurryGuy

    FurryGuy Well-Known Member

    The pirates sure aren't slow in taking advantage of AnyDVD's resurrection, I can find more than a few active torrent sites having the interim AnyDVD (with SERIAL KEYS!) available for download.
  19. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    That's not an unknown problem. The thing is anydvd is to smart for that to work. OPD access is denied, decryption of discs often fails even though the logfile indicates it does. They then come crying for help to the forums, they get asked for a logfile, the logfile somehow tells the dev's it's a pirated version and they get called out on it, and we never see them again :)

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  20. nebostrangla

    nebostrangla Well-Known Member

    I have a story to tell on this issue and just how why spread it is :
    For anyone who doesn't already know they now market and sell an mp3/wmp only player for your car stereo deck (there is no CD player to it) and I was looking at it one day and I said " that is so f'n stupid why would anybody buy something like this that won't even play a disk anyway period" and a guy beside me says "who even buy's a CD anymore" I replied I do because I want a hard copy of something I've purchased and not have to repay to redownload it if for some reason the hdd gave up the ghost and his reply was this who said anything about PAYING FOR IT and I'm sure they are not alone in that way of thinking and when I said that was pirating and was wrong he says oh yea like jay Z has a problem feeding his kids and that's why it's OK to him (which is my biggest beef because it's not just the mainstream that it hurts it hurts the independent & underground more than anything) and that I shouldn't have said anything about it. My point is players like that and people with opinions like that are why so many files are pirated which that type of player does seem to promote in the first place but since all I wanna do is watch a movie using anyDVDHD on a pc thru a connected HDTV using an older version of PDVD that does what I need it to I'm the bad guy yea right