4K ULTRA HD - BD-25 - BD-50

Discussion in 'CloneBD' started by czappiotr, May 22, 2018.

  1. Just run Powerdvd and drag to the window to the TV. Much easier.
     
  2. testiles

    testiles Well-Known Member

    Now, this is more what I was hoping for.

    You know, since I really only want to use Intel Graphics to play PDVD, maybe I could go into BIOS and just set Multi Monitor Mode on, but keep the primary display as-is (nVidia).

    The added benefit of that is, if the Intel Graphics ports don't work, I can still "see" on the monitor because that's connected to the 1070.

    So then, I'd just reboot and hook the TV up to the Intel Graphics port and I should be good.

    Right?


    Wow, I sure appreciate that Ch3vron. But yeah, I'm probably a very long way from you. In New York, USA.

    As soon as I finish backing up this week's group of new titles, I plan on browsing the BIOS on the new Desktop and see what I can see.

    Just gotta look for a Multi Monitor setting.

    If I can't find it, maybe I'll post a couple of screenshots.


    Since the monitor and the TV are on two separate Graphics processors, that may not be possible.

    Yeah, it's certainly easier if it is.

    When it's all set up, I'll give that a try.

    Thanks Marty.


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  3. testiles

    testiles Well-Known Member

    So, I attempted to browse BIOS and find the monitor or graphic settings.

    First lesson, don't go into BIOS with a Bluetooth keyboard. Looks like Bluetooth is not enabled at that point of startup. Keyboard is useless.

    Had to find the cheap-o USB keyboard that came with the Desktop...


    Second lesson. HP must have control issues.

    @Ch3vr0n you were so right about them. No matter what entrance I took, an HP Setup Utility always initiated instead of a true BIOS utility.

    I tried the UEFI route, I tried hitting F10 on reboot (and several other F keys). HP's version of the BIOS Utility always intercepts.

    You can make certain BIOS changes on the HP Utility but nothing concerning graphics or monitors.


    Here's the things you can change there:

    Time and Date
    Restore Factory Settings
    Hard Disk and CD-ROM configuration
    SATA Emulation (under Storage Options)
    Boot Order
    Password Management
    Device Security
    USB Security
    Slot Security
    Network Boot
    System IDs
    System Security
    Secure Boot Configuration
    OS Power Management
    Hardware Power Management
    Thermal - Fan RPMs
    Power-On Options (This looked promising but only offers POST Messages disable, After Power Loss, Wake on LAN Power-On password, etc)
    BIOS Power-On ( a list of days)
    Device Options (Num Lock on Power-On, Multi-Processor enable, Hyper-Threading enable, NIC PXE Option ROM download)
    Intel Rapid Storage Technology (Optane Volume)


    That's it.


    Don't know where to proceed from here.

    I think I'm SOOL!


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  4. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Which exact keys did you try to get into the BIOS, and what's that thing's model number. On the other hand there is a way to into the BIOS from within windows itself. No idea if on your system that'll trigger the actual bios or that setup utility.

    Press the windows key + i (that'll open settings) > updates and security > system recovery > advanced startup options > restart now
    Then go to troubleshoot > Advanced options > UEFI BIOS settings or something (if they didn't mess with that too, it should boot straight into the bios)

    If that doesn't work, i'll need you to 1) check for an "Advanced" or "Advanced Settings" option or something or 2) Go into every single bios menu > write each sub entry down and their possible values or take lots of images.
     
  5. testiles

    testiles Well-Known Member

    That's the UEFI method I mentioned above.

    Goes straight to the HP Setup version of the BIOS Utility. Just like all other methods.


    The correct key for HP computers is F10. So I restarted and hit that continuously. Brings up a menu with a choice of BIOS Update. Picking that choice takes you to HP Setup Utility.

    Other F keys do the same thing or don't do anything. Tried F1, F2, F8, F10, F12 and ESC just for the hell of it.


    That's exactly what I did above.

    There are several tabs on the HP Utility. I went to each one and wrote down every option available in the previous post.

    Do you want me to add more info so the hierarchy is more obvious? Or add something else? Maybe pics?


    HP Omen 880-110:


    https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c05813246





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  6. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    I'll see if I can contact a friend of mine in the US with 17y of exp if he knows any other ways of getting into the bios. But by the looks of it and what I can find on Google, you're pretty much screwed. Seems they've severely locked down the bios as I've feared and there will be no way to modify that GPU behavior. In the meantime contact hp.

    As to the F keys, you tried all the ones I'd ask so that's out too. Pics might help a little.

    Where exactly (state wise) are you located in the US? How far from Glendale, AZ?

    Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 7 met Tapatalk
     
  7. testiles

    testiles Well-Known Member

    Ok.

    But yeah, that's what I figured.


    Funny, that's exactly what I decided I should do as well.

    Have to tell you I have not had good experiences with HP Support though. I keep buying them because their computers are pretty solid, therefore I seldom have to deal with their support.

    If I can get past the almost insurmountable task of getting them to understand what I'm trying to do and why (because they will most certainly want to know why), if I can get past that, then I still have to hope I get a tech willing to invest a little brain power to help solve an unusual problem.

    And not this guy ... "Ok, first, do you have the desktop plugged in?" (lol).

    I'll give it a shot and hope for the best...


    Ok, then.

    I plan on going another few rounds with both F key and UEFI entry, just to make SURE I didn't miss anything before bothering with HP.


    I see where you may be headed there and appreciate it but no. I'm on the other side of the country, probably about 2500 miles away.


    So, today, Round 15.

    Never hurts to try again.


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  8. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Well that guy i'm talking about does take "mail-ins" ;) Ya could ship it to him :)
     
  9. testiles

    testiles Well-Known Member

    You think he might be able to force the BIOS door open and make the setting?

    What would his fee likely be for that?


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  10. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Can't guarantee that, but he sure has plenty experience. But that's a conversation not fit for this board. Wouldn't want him to "get into trouble" by being linked here. I'll pull your email from your profile, and send you a message via e-mail later
     
  11. testiles

    testiles Well-Known Member

    Ok, cool!


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  12. testiles

    testiles Well-Known Member

    @Ch3vr0n

    I ran across a menu to "Select Boot device".

    It gave these options:

    - UEFI Boot Source

    - OS Boot Manager

    - Windows Boot Manager (Intel Data_Volume)

    - Legacy Boot Sources


    I though maybe if I could go to Legacy Boot Sources, it might somehow allow me to get to a real (legacy) BIOS Utility.

    But somewhere in the process I did something wrong and all I got when starting the computer was a blank screen! Repeatedly!

    I managed to get back to (what I think is) normal operations, but I think I should stop poking around in areas of the computer I don't fully understand.

    <wiping sweat from brow>


    So, on to my last resort of contacting HP.


    If that doesn't work, I'm done.



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  13. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Try the uefi boot source, with a little luck you can get to the rest of the settings that way

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  14. testiles

    testiles Well-Known Member

    Ok, I'll try it.

    Just hoping not to mis-step and have the computer go off into Never Never Land again...


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  15. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    As long as you don't press F10 (usual default for save settings & exit) and you didn't modify anything (just opening and closing a dropdown box for example doesn't modify a setting) that you don't want to. You should be fine.
     
  16. testiles

    testiles Well-Known Member

    Can you explain to me what I'm actually doing when I "set a boot device".

    And what the outcome of selecting UEFI boot source, or legacy boot source for that matter, should be?


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  17. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Don't touch that setting itself, it tells the bios which drive to boot the OS from. Technically even if you do, the boot manager should be smart to boot from the only device it can. Do NOT change it from UEFI to "legacy" boot unless you know what you're doing. You will cause a BSOD and will have to boot into safe mode to fix it. If it's in UEFI, leave it. If it's in legacy, change it to UEFI, boot into safe mode, then just reboot.

    If you can't get from the UEFI Boot manager into the other settings, then you're pretty much screwed and you'll have to go contact HP. But from what i can find, the moment a GPU is installed, they've locked it down to disable the iGPU.

    Its precisely stunts like that why i avoid prebuilt systems at all cost. ZERO control over any change you want to make, slim to no upgrade possibilities,...
     
  18. testiles

    testiles Well-Known Member

    UEFI Boot Source is one of the options under "Select Boot device".

    I thought you were saying to click on that.


    Whether that's changing the Boot device setting or whether that's already what it's set to, I don't know.

    My guess is that's what it's normally set to and that's what it is right now.


    Are you saying to click on UEFI Boot Source or to not touch this setting?


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  19. testiles

    testiles Well-Known Member

    ... also what to you think selecting OS Boot Manager and Windows Boot Manager for the Boot device does?


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  20. Ch3vr0n

    Ch3vr0n Translator NL & Mod

    Nah just clicking on that setting will show you the boot order, the "plan" is to go into the full UEFI menu via that submenu. Don't change the setting itself :) The OS Manager and Boot Manager are pretty much the same. Don't change their values.