:agree: As I mentioned once, I experiment with different software for difficult movies! For those of you who have been having difficulty with Saw 3, try this! But first let me say this! Shrink will encounter an error right at the beginning and decrypter cannot do it alone with Any DVD. Clone DVD will only let me copy the main movie! Here's a solution that worked for me! Use RipIt4Me, Dvd Shrink 3.2 and Dvd Decrypter. First use RipIt4Me (disableAnyDVD) and select full dvd, let it create a target directory and leave all fixVTS settings checked. The rip proccess will begin, then it will switch to decrypter, then shrink, then back to decrypter. The process is long and tedious, but if you think SAW 3 is worth it then try it! I was able to make a perfect complete clone of the dvd!