i just backed up a copy of the messengers and when i inserted the backup into my dvd player it was a total pixelated mess very grainy low quality. however when i insert the original disc it plays perfectly im assuming its another protection by the crafty developers at sony i am using any dvd version 6.1.6.0 and clone dvd version 2.9.0.9 any help or advice would be greatly appreciated DARN YOU SONY!!!! thank you i am done now!