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Starting off with a great post by James on CDFreaks:
James I like the effort that this post took, and the intent to do something about all this Sony crap.
First of all, I don't think you need worry at all about removing the old ripper from AnyDVD. That is, once a new one is done that clears 100% of the Sony crap. It's not like you're "taking a feature away" - so long as you provide the updated AnyDVD ripper as a free download. (of course it only works with AnyDVD) Then all you'd have to do is leave the menu item in AnyDVD, and have it invoke the new ripper. If someone did not download the new and improved ripper - he'd get an error message prompting him to do so. Real simple. This is a case where you can have your cake and eat it too! Win/Win!! You can separate the ripper for technical reasons, keep the AnyDVD download small, and you still please 100% of the people 100% of the time!! (just like the world was 2 months ago. ) If anyone dared whine about having to download the new ripper separately, don't you think that myself and everyone else crying for a fix wouldn't be the first to tear him/her a new anus? You'd need asbestos undies to survive our wrath. <evil grin>
As for the second part of the post... it's not just about Shrink. Shrink however, is a good "litmus test" that a ripped DVD is in fact protection free. You don't have to try to figure out "what Shrink wants", all you have to do is develop a ripper that gets rid of all the extra and bogus titles etc etc and Shrink will purr again. CloneDVD2 would benifit!! As it works now, a CloneDVD2 rip leaves most of the extra crap behind, in several cases the CloneDVD rip is too big for Shrink to handle - and worse the CloneDVD output disk has a lot of space wasted by the extra crap. Share the updated ripper with the CloneDVD2 developers - and it's win/win again!
So what say you??? I know many are eager to hear of this.....
-W
James said:Future:
For technical reasons, I want to separate the ripper(s) from AnyDVD. Maybe they can use shared DLLs to keep the code size small.
We can't remove them, because many people got used to them, and it is hard to explain why a new version has less features than the previous.
I will try to improve the DVD ripper so Shrink will be happy again. But I say "try", because I sometimes have no clue why Shrink is complaining (in other words - its error handling sucks).
You see messages like "Invalid navigation structure" (well that's the most informative), "not enough storage space to process this command" (huh?) or "VTS... missing" (but it's there?).
What is the program trying to tell me? Speak to me, oh Shrink, so I can make the files nice and shiny for you.
But enough rambling, that's my problem, not yours.
In other words, yes, we will try to keep Shrink happy. But it will be in some form of "ripper" (not on the fly), so you're probably better off using CloneDVD to do the job of the ripper *now* (and benefit of CloneDVD's capabilities combined with Shrink's wonderful compression).
James I like the effort that this post took, and the intent to do something about all this Sony crap.
First of all, I don't think you need worry at all about removing the old ripper from AnyDVD. That is, once a new one is done that clears 100% of the Sony crap. It's not like you're "taking a feature away" - so long as you provide the updated AnyDVD ripper as a free download. (of course it only works with AnyDVD) Then all you'd have to do is leave the menu item in AnyDVD, and have it invoke the new ripper. If someone did not download the new and improved ripper - he'd get an error message prompting him to do so. Real simple. This is a case where you can have your cake and eat it too! Win/Win!! You can separate the ripper for technical reasons, keep the AnyDVD download small, and you still please 100% of the people 100% of the time!! (just like the world was 2 months ago. ) If anyone dared whine about having to download the new ripper separately, don't you think that myself and everyone else crying for a fix wouldn't be the first to tear him/her a new anus? You'd need asbestos undies to survive our wrath. <evil grin>
As for the second part of the post... it's not just about Shrink. Shrink however, is a good "litmus test" that a ripped DVD is in fact protection free. You don't have to try to figure out "what Shrink wants", all you have to do is develop a ripper that gets rid of all the extra and bogus titles etc etc and Shrink will purr again. CloneDVD2 would benifit!! As it works now, a CloneDVD2 rip leaves most of the extra crap behind, in several cases the CloneDVD rip is too big for Shrink to handle - and worse the CloneDVD output disk has a lot of space wasted by the extra crap. Share the updated ripper with the CloneDVD2 developers - and it's win/win again!
So what say you??? I know many are eager to hear of this.....
-W
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