AnyDVD is falling behind!!!

[crackbaby]

Just wanted to add my two cents. AnyDVD is not a end all cure all but rather a piece of the puzzle. Using a combination of tools on these new releases -SONY- a solution is possible.

I think with Sony being as difficult as they are, AnyDVD/Slysoft is keeping up well, constructive criticism is always good but be respectful at the same time.

I recently backed up 007 Casino Royal which put me onto these forums to figure it out. After ripping with CloneDVD with AnyDVD running, I opened it up in DVDremakePro, if you look at how many files there are, how it jumps around all I can say is OMG.
I did however manage to rip out all the crap, relink it all, export it, also then had to run FixVTS to get it running. Then it would import into Shrink. So backing up a Sony Movie such as 007 Casino Royal can be done while keeping menus, it just takes a little more work.

Thanks to those at Slysoft for all the hard work I know that you guys must put in.

 

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

Just wanted to add my two cents. AnyDVD is not a end all cure all but rather a piece of the puzzle. Using a combination of tools on these new releases -SONY- a solution is possible.

I think with Sony being as difficult as they are, AnyDVD/Slysoft is keeping up well, constructive criticism is always good but be respectful at the same time.

I completely agree

I recently backed up 007 Casino Royal which put me onto these forums to figure it out. After ripping with CloneDVD with AnyDVD running, I opened it up in DVDremakePro, if you look at how many files there are, how it jumps around all I can say is OMG.
I did however manage to rip out all the crap, relink it all, export it, also then had to run FixVTS to get it running. Then it would import into Shrink. So backing up a Sony Movie such as 007 Casino Royal can be done while keeping menus, it just takes a little more work..

Yes, FixVTS did a lot of remapping. It was similar with The Holiday and needing to use FixVTS will likely become the norm for the near future with Sony releases. For me it's not a big deal since I always rip my backups to HDD first and burn later.

I don't think Sony believes they will stop copying of these movies but I do believe their intent is to just make it a bit more work.

 

[jillijo44]

Any DVD working perfectly for me

The only movie I have had problems with was The Illusionist. Probably could have backed it up but I gave up because of frustration. Casino Royale backed up beautifully and I only use Any DVD and an old copy of DVD xCopy.

 

[Webslinger]

The only movie I have had problems with was The Illusionist.

That disc has nothing interesting on it in terms of protection; it's not part of the Sony bad sector stuff.

 

[waxman]

Im this situation, I don't really care what AnyDVD and other decrypters can and cannot do. All I want is for my DVD to be copy-protection free. No remnants left over, no nothing. Whatever has to be changed/added to AnyDVD I will support if in the end, produces nice, clean, compliant files. Is that too much to ask from a program which removes copy-protection?

I have to agree on this one, that's all I really want AnyDvd to do. It gives me so many more options if it can just give me a clean DVD every time. I could care less about watching a movie on the fly on the computer, I bought AnyDvd to remove copy protection from all DVD's, bar none. Just give me a nice, clean, copy protection free DVD with out having to use something in conjunction with it. Isn't that what it used to do?

 

[therivetman]

Any Dvd+clone Dvd 2

Please do not insult Shrink users; many Shrink users are also Anydvd customers. oliceman:

Insulting posts are against forum rules.

THAT'S IT...ANYTHING ELSE AND YOUR DVD WILL HAVE ERRORS PERIOD

 

[DetroitBaseball]

THAT'S IT...ANYTHING ELSE AND YOUR DVD WILL HAVE ERRORS PERIOD

What's your problem?

 

[rkoko164]

"1. Do you know of any other software that can decrypt on the fly and also offer Shrink compatibility for these newer Sony titles? Do you know of any other software that can decrypt this newer Sony stuff on the fly and also work on a driver level?"

I do...... it's called "DVDFab Gold", it works w/o a flinch. Decodes, shrinks, and burns. I agree with "MMM" Slysoft is falling behind. I have had several errors that using AnyDvd and Shrink that DvdFab Gold had no problem with.

I do like Sylsoft and the fact that the updates are frequent but, I was forced to find another source to get the job done.

 

[DetroitBaseball]

It's not Slysoft's fault that Shrink can't handle some newer movies. It still decrypts the movies just like it should.

 

[rkoko164]

That,s possible, I gave that a thought too. I purchased AnyDvd, when using Shrink Dvd failed to work for me as a stand alone product. It worked great for a long while but, starting not to work more often lately.

 

[ABC]

Im this situation, I don't really care what AnyDVD and other decrypters can and cannot do. All I want is for my DVD to be copy-protection free. No remnants left over, no nothing. Whatever has to be changed/added to AnyDVD I will support if in the end, produces nice, clean, compliant files. Is that too much to ask from a program which removes copy-protection?

Yep ! I agree fully !

That's the bottom line.

I don't use shrink or image burn or all the others out there, but I do want AnyDVD to do its job correctly.

Has anyone else noticed that these problems seem to have started since Slysoft have modified AnyDVD to work with HD DVD's and Blu-Ray

 

[Clams]

Has anyone else noticed that these problems seem to have started since Slysoft have modified AnyDVD to work with HD DVD's and Blu-Ray

No, they started with Saw3, well before the release of AnyDVD-HD. No real connection.

-W

 

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

I do...... it's called "DVDFab Gold", it works w/o a flinch. Decodes, shrinks, and burns. I agree with "MMM" Slysoft is falling behind. I have had several errors that using AnyDvd and Shrink that DvdFab Gold had no problem with.

I'm sorry but as good as DVDFab may be at creating working backups you are wrong about saying DVDFab decrypts on-the-fly at the driver level.

So, yes, DVDFab Gold has no problem with Shrink? I have nothing to disagree with when you state that but your full quote went further hence why I am correcting you.

 

[whatever_gong82]

I'm sorry but as good as DVDFab may be at creating working backups you are wrong about saying DVDFab decrypts on-the-fly at the driver level.

So, yes, DVDFab Gold has no problem with Shrink? I have nothing to disagree with when you state that but your full quote went further hence why I am correcting you.

I just bought DVDFab Platinum the other day when I started to have trouble backing my DVDs up with AnyDVD, but I still prefer AnyDVD and CloneDVD (of which I bought both of them). To me, the more weapons against what the studios are doing to make it difficult to backup our legally bought DVDs, the better.

8)

 

[rkoko164]

I'm sorry but as good as DVDFab may be at creating working backups you are wrong about saying DVDFab decrypts on-the-fly at the driver level.

So, yes, DVDFab Gold has no problem with Shrink? I have nothing to disagree with when you state that but your full quote went further hence why I am correcting you.

I'm saying I popped in Saw3 and Casino Royale running DVDFabGold and made perfect working copies to DVD-R's using NO other software. It did it all. Go try the 30 free trial for yourself.

 

[Webslinger]

"1. Do you know of any other software that can decrypt on the fly and also offer Shrink compatibility for these newer Sony titles? Do you know of any other software that can decrypt this newer Sony stuff on the fly and also work on a driver level?"

I do...... it's called "DVDFab Gold", it works w/o a flinch.

:disagree: DvdFab does not decrypt on the fly, and it's not a driver.

 

[Rich86]

DVDShrink vs. AnyDVD ad nauseum . . .

It's not Slysoft's fault that Shrink can't handle some newer movies. It still decrypts the movies just like it should.

You are right, of course. Just like it is not DVDShrink's fault that AnyDVD cannot create a fully DVD standard compliant set of files on the fly with those Sony titles, which is why DVDShrink sometimes cannot process the output of AnyDVD. AnyDVD output works ok in CloneDVD2 because ClonbeDVD2 cleans up the junk left behind by AnyDVD.
If folks want to use DVDShrink all the time, they should just accept that they will have to rip their title using something other than AnyDVD at times. I suggest RipIt4Me for that purpose. It does a great job - on pretty much anything I've ever tried.

If Elby/Slysoft ever incorporates some the truly powerful and useful re-authoring features in DVDShrink into CloneDVD2, and improves the transcoding in ClonedVD2 to at least achieve the level of quality of DVDShrink - then maybe some of us dedicated DVDShrink fans might migrate to CloneDVD2 full-time, instead of only for limited situations.

"only an idiot would use shrink when slysoft makes such a fine product as clone dvd 2....i'd rather they ignore support for that crap(shrink etc.) as it might adversly affect future developments such as clone dvd 3 HD....WHAT SAY ALL?" - says the rivetman

I say:
If you are a fan of friendly, intuitive gui's designed to make things easy particularly for the novice user, at the expense of powerful editing and re-authoring capabilities, then by all means, CloneDVD2 is a great choice. If you are willing to sacrifice video quality when transcoding forces compression beyond something minor (say 85% level) then CloneDVD2 is an excellent choice. If you use DVDShrink for processing frequently, and want to back-up your newer Sony dvd's with sector, vts and ifo corruption, then AnyDVD is a poor choice for a decryptor. Fortunately there are other choices out there that do a great job as mentioned earlier, such as RipIt4Me.

 

[DetroitBaseball]

CloneDVD isn't very far at all from the quality of Shrink in terms of transcoding.

 

[Clams]

AnyDVD output works ok in CloneDVD2 because ClonbeDVD2 cleans up the junk left behind by AnyDVD.

Minor correction here... all posts indicate CloneDVD2 does not "clean up" the junk, it just tolerates it better. Post results indicate that it's passing it through to the copy on a full disk backup. This wastes disk space on the burned disk. That's fine for DVD9 burns, but if your reduxing the whole DVD onto a DVD5, every byte counts.

To put it creatively:
DVDShrink takes one look at the Sony crap that gets past AnyDVD and vomits it right back at you with a rather cryptic error message - but you at least know for sure that it puked.
CloneDVD2 gives you a nice warm smile, as it gets a quiet case of the runs and passes all that Sony crap right into your pants (disk) faster than a goose. (but you get a nice warm feeling)

Iether way.... you're wearing it.... it smells.... and Sony gave it to you.

-W (Thank you! Please tip your bartenders folks, I'm here all night) :clap: :agree: :clap:

 

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

I'm saying I popped in Saw3 and Casino Royale running DVDFabGold and made perfect working copies to DVD-R's using NO other software. It did it all. Go try the 30 free trial for yourself.

I don't need to try the trial of DVDFab.

If you are going to quote someone and then reply then use the actual text that is relevant. You added the driver level and on the fly part to your quote and then said DVDFab could do it. It doesn't and it can't! That was the point of my reply and I stated as much.